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Even though considerably outnumbered, the Riff inflicted nearly six times the number of casualties on the Spanish and French than they suffered. On many Police Bayonets there are not only stamped numbers, but there were also letters proceeding the numbers that identified the city from where the bayonet was used during the Weimar period. The HZA stampings are described by Costanzo as being found on P.08 Lugers issued to security guards of military installations only, with no mention of the WaAJL16 being marked on P.08 style Police holsters. ad[3]='http://www.germandaggers.com/banners/Marna.jpg'; 4 days Left 18th Century Wooden Box with Brass Handle. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. They sure set off a display real nice. Luger wooden box cleaning kit eagle proof differs from recognized Police Luger eagle stamped holsters, which are usually not associated with E/WaA control numbers. 19-130 pictures a cut-back LP.08 holster with a text caption, specifically and unequivocally, stating that the holster cleaning rod sleeve was modified by addition of a wider top section and second stud to accommodate the long Police cleaning rod with soldered on travel stop i.e., if a police cleaning rod with brass stopper wont fit the original cleaning rod sleeve, what difference would it make, dimensionally, to extend the length and not the diameter of the holster body leather cleaning rod sleeve? Only one other example has ever been documented. JavaScript is disabled. Since the HZa used the WaAJt instead of the HZaJt stamp, I would suspect it was a new made item and not a reissued piece. Hard to find historic variation. indicating issue to the Railway Police in Halle. police issue 7-inch Faint illegible ink stamp inside the flap (Zeitz?). Pw.B. The original brown leather holster was probably dyed/swabbed black, at this time, to conform to regulations. The Police Lugers: German Police Lugers and Their Markings 1918-1958 book is in very low demand now as the rank for the book is 5,705,216 at the moment. Item Information. Sind viele Uenderungen aus dem Gebiete des Staats=, Polizei= und Strafrechts eingetreten. Note: Air surveillance departments controlled by the provincial Pictured is an excellent condition WW2 S98 Police Bayonet made by CARL EICKHORN SOLINGEN, It is pictured again as part of a grouping consisting of a period 1937 dated Police manual titled: 1937 PDV 3 Vorfchrift fr die Waffen= und Schieausbildung der Ordnnungspistolen, a 1935 dated Police style Robert Larsen-BERLIN TP stamped holster and a rare 1908/13 triple C/X proofed commercial/military/Police Luger sn 69859. Also, the same holster is pictured with a 1908/13 five-digit s/n commercial-military-police Luger. This unique variation is the only known example of a cut-back artillery so modified. Approximately 3,000 produced. I have several lugers and Broomhandles with the "HZaJt18" marking on them. view 3. Lot 0478, Jan 14, 2023. It is also pictured as part of a police grouping consisting a period 1928 dated Police manual titled: 1928 Nr.7,1 Vorschrift fr die Waffenausbildung der Shutzpolizei or 1928 Nr.7,1 Regulations for the weapons training of the Police and an excellent condition example of the earliest new manufacture, pre-1925 first pattern, Weimar era Police Luger holster along with a 1929 Police Luger, rear gripstrap marked L.W.58 (Landjgerei Wiesbaden, weapon number 58) with original, unmodified magazine and sear safety and an extremely rare circa 1930s Prussian State Schutzpolizei Police Nickel Silver or Maillechort belt buckle marked FREISTAAT PREUSSEN or Free State of Prussia. 2: 1,223: DWM unit marked. allow citizens to protect themselves from looters, armed gangs, and (Bavarian) State Police. In the manual is pictured the P.08 Luger on pages 17 and 26. Is wird daher fr alle Polizeibeamten, die mit dem Inhalt des Buches vertraut sind, ein leichtes sein, sich auch in der vorliegenden Reubearbeitung ohne Schwierigteit zurechtzusinden. It has all matching parts to include the side plate and take down lever which were stamped again with the same 2 digits as before but on the front of each part like would would see on a military marked pistol. Another NAZI era example being the Walther PP and PPK pistols pictured in Axis Pistols 1986 by J. by Igorak89 06 May 2016, 12:14, Post The unusual marking is located between the belt loops. In fact, the majority of the pistols having a SN between 1v and 524v were produced and proofed in Berlin. Fr soll an dem inneren Miederausbau mit= arbeiten, die ffentliche Gicherheit, Ordnung und Ruhe frdern und vor allem jedem Brger die Mglichteit geben, seiner sittlichen Bflicht zur Bettigung seiner geistigen und trperlichen Krfte zum Mohle der Gesamtheit zu gengen. Opinion 3: I strongly believe what you have is a Heeres-Zeugamt produced holster. WaA-Army, Luftwaffe Eagle 2-Air Force. If you collect Lugers, you need this book. Other than the TBLAP published information that This interference issue varies from barrel to barrel, curiously, to both police and non-police P.08 9mm Lugers, depending on the width of the sight blade sliding base. The German purpose about HIPO was clear: To help Gestapo as a Danish helping-police. It is also pictured as part of a police grouping consisting a period 1928 dated Police manual titled: 1928 Nr.7,1 Vorschrift fr die Waffenausbildung der Shutzpolizei or 1928 Nr.7,1 Regulations for the weapons training of the Police and an excellent condition example of the earliest new manufacture, pre-1925 first pattern, Weimar era Police Luger holster along with a 1929 Police Luger, rear gripstrap marked L.W.58 (Landjgerei Wiesbaden, weapon number 58) with original, unmodified magazine . document.write(''). Additionally, hand written in pencil on the wooden cover is Fehrenbach, which is an area in Germany. the center Police officer with a white colored belt. Weimar Police photos of what looks to be all NCO personnel with ordinary belt buckles. Some of the Police guns are reported with DWM toggles; these do not appear in any recognizable pattern. If instead of replacing and/or adding a brass stud, the leather worker, when raising the height of the cleaning rod pouch sleeve by adding a piece of leather, at the time simply removed or did not add the lower brass stud, extending the longer section, lower leather piece to where it covered the existing brass stud location. be a very rare, late date for a second conversion of a WW1 artillery holster to a P.08 style, police unit marked holster. ----------------------------------------------------------- page 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- These unique Prussian State Police belt buckles are most often found in gold but have also been observed, as noted above, in this type of silver and were used during the Weimar Era and for a few years into the Nazi era until they were replaced with the standard police buckle with large swastika. Pictured is a brown leather 1929 dated Robert Larsen Berlin police holster with a Weimar era Sunburst K police inspection stamp and marked L.G. Over all good condition. And when new information comes out, sometimes "old" information is shown to be wrong. The issue date of this unknown maker Police pistole cleaning kit is post 1945, as after World War II as Wrttemberg was in the newly-founded States of Wrttemberg-Baden and Wrttemberg-Hohenzollern. Pictured is a Police Luger with chain and connected brush in barrel. officially discontinued. What am I missing here? and Band II or Volume II published in 1921 Weimar Germany with the cover title: Das Lehrbuch fr die Polizeischulen or The textbook for the police schools. J. Pictured are multiple views of the four brass studs and their dimensions used with the subject holster. It is very tiny. Igorak89 Member Posts: 35 Joined: 03 Oct 2013, 10:01 Location: Serbia Re: Luger markings identification - help The first pictured example of a multiple conversion of an artillery to police holster conversion was done to a 1918 dated Dingeldey & Werres-Berlin artillery holster. Come join the discussion about the history, technology and extraordinary background associated with these design masterpieces. 33. The breech is stamped 1920 and the center toggle has DWM monogram on it. A rare DWM-made Model 1906 9mm para made for the Tsarist Russia contract. German: German Mfg. German firearms are loaded with a variety of markings and stamps. The standard 6 barrel is marked Germany on the underside. Pictured is an example featured in Weimar Lugers by J Still, 1993, There is no Police tool in the holster. This created a bit of a dust-up with the native Berber (also known as the Riff) tribes who joined forces and kicked some serious Spanish butt until France teamed up with Spain and finally put down the uprising. It was one of 1,000 purchased by the U.S. 9mm Luger Caliber. It is interesting to note however that no pistols having a blank toggle and the 'v' suffix have been reported so far. Usually when this is done another identification is added. The E/WaAJL16 is, by all accounts to date, similar to, or a variation of, the acceptance stamp for Factory Guard/Werkschutz issue. The purpose of the added entrance leather section with a second brass stud to the cleaning rod pouch is therefore unclear, and without removing the original brass stud creates a second barrier to inserting the cleaning rod, however, there is no issue with the insertion of a navy, six ring wooden barrel handle, 5.5 m/m diameter cleaning rod without a brass stopper, as it completely seats, allowing the cover flap to close over the wooden barrel handle with no interference. The production outlet was 100 pistols a day during that time. SOLD - 1921 DWM Luger - Police Rework $1,950.00 Availability: Out of stock SKU 89661 - 15966 Next/Previous Description 6/4/21 - This is a nice example of a rare 1921-dated DWM Luger. The subject Police holster E/Mg10 stamping is recognized by collectors as authentic, based on three examples seen on WwMg/41 dated WW2 military issued P08 holsters. -techn. Note: Black scabbard & frog is city. Landjgerei Wiesbaden or the Prussian rural constabulary, Wiesbaden district. As you see - new evidence produces mostly new questions. Police arms had a Reportedly next to the remaining lot of 2,760 of these readied blank toggle pistols also a small quantity of unmarked toggles came from Berlin to Oberndorf. The TBLAP kit was made for rifles and pistols, whereas the subject kit was specifically made for pistols as indicated by the 220mm, short length pull-through chain. Brief explanation of the Danish HIPO-organization (as the name is mentioned again and again): HIPO was a Danish corps, established 1944 by the German Gestapo, recruited among Danish traitors after, most of the Danish policemen on September 19th 1944 were arrested and sent to concentration camps in Germany. police cleaning rods, describes them as: Original Opinion 2: I'm convinced that this is an Air Factory Werkschutz holster. What unit markings are on the pistol? 19-172 text caption. It is assumed that at the time of the conversion the holster was still brown. With the reorganization of the police carried out on 6 October 1920, the factual responsibility of the new police has been considerably expanded. indicated by the 220mm, short length pull-through chain. Pictured is a disassembled view of the subject aftermarket P08 marked and police stick wing acceptance stamped, variation 1 muzzle protector. 2. The actual marking is likely WaAJt18. new style of police holster was introduced without a holster spine attached cleaning rod sleeve, replacing it with a spare magazine pouch. Akah made commercial holsters in the 1920s and 1930s with some used by the Germen Polizei. But there is a very great difference: Gestapo was German, working in enemy-country. This has all matching numbers except for the proper grips and concentric ring, wooden base . 1014 stamped on the back side along with an Eagle/Mg10 stamping, considered by Luger collectors to be rare on holsters, particularly on Police Luger holsters. 1928 (Undated) "Riff" Berlin Mauser Rig (Police) SOLD. German military and police units, one can sometimes derive some Brown would be rural. 2. Pistols and Holsters. 12 - item 12 of the first centuria within command II in the Pictured below are several Police Training and Instruction manuals dating from 1921 through 1949. view 2 and view 3. Faint, illegible makers markings are stamped inside the cover flap. The instruction manual is pictured and other interesting details are described in TBLAP, VIII, Chapter 19, Page 1297, Fig. Over all good condition. Luger DWM 1906 Navy, 9mm, 2nd issue. Receiver proof, some reworked 1920 Police and Military Lugers 32. But you must recognize that; being a researcher yourself! There are many possible combinations of However, in 1941, Fraktur was banned in a Schrifterlass (edict on script) signed by Martin Bormann as so-called Schwabacher Judenlettern ("Schwabacher Jewish letters"). They killed, tortured, blew up houses, factories and even Tivoli in Copenhagen, not for any other reasons than terrorism, ordered by Hitler personally and the Nazi occupation forces, getting more and more mad as the end came still nearer. Interestingly, this pistol was part of an early period, fancy wooden case, which included provisions for two spare magazines, cleaning rod, box of period ammunition and a loading tool. 1920-1933: DWM Lugers. Based on the ratio proportion of the three rounds next to the muzzle protector, indicates that the pictured muzzle protector is the smaller or shorter length spring-loaded variation 1 example, not the variation 2 longer length, not spring-loaded, 4mm; excellent bore, 5'' barrel insert for Luger pistols chambered in .30 Luger (7.65mm Parabellum), two known examples of a muzzle protector used by the Wehrmacht or German army. links[3]='http://www.marnamilitaria.com'; The variation 1 police marked 4mm sub caliber muzzle protector that can be installed in a single step seems more practical for use with the police cleaning rod. It is the Eagle/Mg10 stamping that requires explanation. Three are police. Despite the fact that both Weimar Lugers and Bavarian State Police (Landespolizei), 1930. 1st model prototype. May be blued from 1923. Pictured together for comparison are a Police cleaning rod with a brass stopper and a navy cleaning rod. violations of the Treaty of Versailles by the German police. The base forms of the unit marks for this police force are contained in Any attempt to insert or force the Police cleaning rod with brass stopper past the brass stud would damage, either the rather stiff, added inflexible cleaning rod upper leather pouch section, the holster body or the actual cleaning rod. Luger 1936 First Year after Sneak Codes. The two-piece assembly can also be Translated cover of The Police Pistols, Dresden manual. Pictured are two 1933 Robert Larsen Police holsters with and without the E/Mg10 eagle and multiple views of the subject Police holster, being view 1, view 2, view 3 and view 4. Army, Navy, Police, The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. This is German WWI Naval crown m marked on the left receiver. The magazine safety is intact, the grips screws haven't been tampered with and overall looks like a pretty decent pistol. An inspection of other pre-WW1 Artillery holster/stocks in the collection shows yet another shape/style and size of cleaning rod pouch/sleeve affixed brass stud. One of just 1,000 made, it includes Cyrillic safety markings and crossed Mosin Nagant rifle engravings (Photos: RIA). 3 Arming Weimar Germany, including Weimar Police Lugers, the Sear Safety, the Magazine Safety, profiles of Weimar Police Lugers, Police holsters, Police Magazines and Police tools & miscellaneous. All of this happened between 1912 and 1926. Pictured for comparison are examples 1 and 2. is a disassembled view of the subject aftermarket P08 marked and police stick wing acceptance stamped, variation. This would account for the Luftwaffe acceptance stamp. With his permission, I have posted it below. These were finished and delivered by Mauser as stock on hand in the early '30s. First Mass-produced Semi-automatic Pistol. We know now that it was DWM who started the v block. Simply a guard at a warehouse. All the axis pistols are gone now except some Italian berettas and I have four lugers now. Password: Register: All Albums: FAQ: Calendar: Mark Forums Read: View First Unread Thread Tools: Display Modes: 06-24-2002, 11:58 PM . For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Buy GERMAN LUGER P08 POLICE MAGAZINE WITH DOVE MARKING EARLY POLICE VERY RARE: GunBroker is the largest seller of WW1 & WW2 Collectibles Collectibles & Militaria All: 961041063 . Pictured is a variation 1, spring loaded muzzle protector, which is the only one of two known examples of a muzzle protector used by the Wehrmacht or German army as indicated by the droop-wing eagle over WaA107 army inspection stamp located on the right side flat. Thread Tools: Display Modes The second being a 1920s chamber stamped commercial P.08 Luger 9754r that is forward gripstrap police marked lengthwise S. M. 1704. or (Prussia) Schutzpolizei Mnster 1074 - Protection Police, Mnster district 7. The E/Mg10 is thought to be the inspector stamp or proof marking used at this depot. Pictured is a German manufactured commercial holster, original pistol model unknown, converted to accept a P.08 Luger pistol by modifying the holster body entrance. the transcription. Most of the Police guns in this range report an eagle/WaA66 acceptance stamp on the right receiver (this stamp is not reported before the, 13 Police reports indicate a complete WaA66 proof and inspection suite, with, The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Per Weimar Lugers by J. The weirdest part is the stamp on the inside back panel. 413 or Landjgerei Gumbinnen; view 1 and view 2. the interpretation of German unit marks is outside the scope of the Additionally, by restricting the insertion of the cleaning rod end, with affixed Reinigungsgdocht[6] or cleaning wick flush to the chamber face, prevents it from becoming detached, which could happen with a longer cleaning rod extending beyond the barrel/receiver chamber face. To see other police manual examples, such as full pagination and other details, click here. The Germans used the letter "J" instead of "I" quite often to avoid confusion with the number "1." Pictured is a Police Luger with chain and connected brush in barrel. another cut-back Artillery to Police holster, An examination of the P. Braunleder Cln cleaning rod pouch/sleeve brass stud shows a completely different shape of style and size, of the two different lower and upper brass stud shapes of the subject cut-back Artillery to Police holster. This was forbidden by the Treaty of This association is not supported by any distinguishing markings different from any other Landjgerei marked Police holsters. It is uncertain how long the holster remained in the pre-1928 first conversion, shortened LP.08 police pattern as the balance of the changes that constitute the second conversion are unique to this holster, starting with the removal of the up-strap, cover flap keeper and brass stud, plugging the cover flap stud anchor hole, and replacing the original artillery up-strap with a non-standard for a police holster, originally black paint/enamel coated metal belt buckle, keeper and strap cover flap closure. Pictured is a 1943 dated SCHAMBACH & Co. -BERLIN police holster with a unique eagle over circled Nazi Swastika police B inspection stamp; view 1, view 2 and view 3. Other than the most notable features of the cut-back artillery holsters is the toe plug and the cleaning rod sleeve of these former artillery Luger holsters, none are the same, as there are other changes, such as method of carry, where Sturgess in TBLAP suggests, that with the lack of belt loops they were carried over the shoulder, somehow utilizing the rear attached leather stock block, although some examples have been modified to a single loop belt carry by rotating the The pistol is fitted with a set of checkered walnut grips. In HIlfs-POlizei you found only Danes, enemies to their own countrymen. Kriminalpolizei (detective force), Assigned to Per C. Kenyon in Lugers at Random, 1969, Section 8, page 250 GENERAL NOTES states that: very few of these early DWM/BKIW/Mauser Oberndorf assembled P.08s were made and very few of this variation are found with a Sear safety. stamping for another letter or number, but since the upper portion of the left side rectangle enclosure line is partially obscured by the steel washer, resulting in a light stamping, missing a possible letter or number, which is a result of stamping too close to the underside washer, securing the cover flap steel stud. In the organization of the police, disorder is of decisive importance for the regulation of the individual types of police, without which the reconstruction of this direction, which is so important for the state life, would have been a problem. 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